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30 Sep 2009 HEADLINE


SYNOPSIS: CalCar's founder Felix Kramer responds to NAF Senior Fellow Terry Tamminen's assertions about the shortcomings of battery electric cars.

Source: CalCars
Class: EDITORIAL/OPINION

Rebutting Mr. Tamminen's Battery Electric Car 'Myths'

By Felix Kramer

We at The California Cars Initiative (and our colleagues at Plug In America and elsewhere), were surprised to see the strong critique of plug-in vehicles at the website of the influential and usually eminently reasonable New America Foundation. In his posting, "The Myth of Battery Cars" NAF Senior Fellow Terry Tamminen, who serves as its Director of its Climate Policy Program, starts off saying "it's time to dump the battery-powered car in the same policy landfill as corn-based ethanol, and he concludes with "battery cars are no more viable at this time for solving our oil addiction on a large-scale basis than corn-based ethanol."

In between he cites multiple objections and analyses many of which are uniformed or misinformed. His approach is both surprising and not unexpected.

On the surprising side, he knows better. In his years at Environment Now! and then as head of the California Environmental Protection Agency, he saw how the objections to electric vehicles (EVs) gradually fell away, and how plug-in hybrids (PHEVs) emerged as a new solution that provides a practical near-term transition for the automotive fleet. We welcomed him at the launching meeting of Plug In Bay Area in August 2006 http://www.calcars.org/calcars-news/501.html where he endorsed PHEVs as "our immediate future" (in contrast to other longer-term solutions). And in his popular 2006 book, "Lives Per Gallon," he mentions EVs two dozen times. Recounting the story of the gutting of California's Zero Emissions (ZEV) Mandate, he cited their "value and practicality."

On the expected side, while publicly embracing "silver buckshot" -- ecumenically pursue all solutions -- Tamminen has always seen the future as hydrogen-powered. In California, he succeeded Alan Lloyd as the chief cheerleader for a "Hydrogen Highway" infrastructure, and for a massive skew in government regulations and support for fuel-cell vehicles over plug-ins. Since leaving state government, he's made the case in Canada and many other countries. Now the vehemence of his article is reflective of his remaining consistent to his vision, even as one-time allies at federal and California elected officials and energy/transportation agencies, and advocates such as the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Rocky Mountain Institute, have acknowledged that this solution remains a decade away and that we can get there quicker with plug-ins.

To take his points in order:

1. Batteries will always be too heavy; materials are scarce and toxic. This sounds like a comment from before 2006. Batteries are improving steadily in "energy density" and cost -- by 7-15% a year, with occasional faster leaps as technologies shift. Automaker and battery makers have concluded that the supposed "lithium shortage" doesn't exist. Nickel-metal hydride and lithium batteries are approved for landfill (not toxic) and can be recycled. The battery and motor of an EV is not always heavier than the larger engine and gas tank while you benefit from up to four times greater efficiency of an electric motor over and internal combustion engine.

2. We'll need a giant new infrastructure; charging takes too long; we'll get overloads and blackouts unless we spend billions of dollars to upgrade the power grid. Plug-in hybrids need no new infrastructure. According to a study from the Pacific National Lab, today's grid has capacity to recharge 84% of today's cars if they all plugged at night. This applies to all-electric vehicles charging at night as well, which will be true for most vehicles used as families' second cars. Price signals will disincentivize daytime charging on late summer afternoons when the grid is at capacity. And the Tesla Roadster's high-power charger takes under four, not eight hours to recharge http://www.teslamotors.com/learn_more/faqs.php .

3. Range matters: yes, most average commutes are 30-40 miles/day, but cars need to be able to drive 300 miles between refills. And people who live in apartments don't have access to a charger. PHEVS l have that range by definition: when the battery is depleted the engine powers the car for hundreds of miles. The forthcoming Chevy Volt 40-mile electric range matches the drive cycle of 78% of vehicles. Tamminen has forgotten his approving quotation (page 152 of Lives Per Gallon) of Ed Begley, Jr. saying "The detractors of electric vehicles are right. Given their limited range, they can only meet the needs of 90 percent of the population." The first buyers of plug-in cars may be drivers with garages, but the charging infrastructure is starting to arrive: The New York Times Real Estate Section reports that building management company executives say they want to be ready for the coming wave of customer demand to charge in their high-rise apartments: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/realestate/30posting.html .

4. Only small, light cars can be battery powered. While it is true that until recently, most EVs were small and underpowered, the coming wave of luxury sports cars has proven that EVs can outperform gasoline cars. The vehicles continue to be designed to be as aerodynamic as possible because that makes sense for any vehicle however it's powered. And Tamminen gets the size issue exactly wrong. The larger vehicles have plenty of room for batteries and, and they're the gas-gulpers. IF you switch around the usual way of looking at miles per gallon into gallons per mile, this becomes obvious. Our 50 MPG Priuses converted to 100 MPG PHEVS use 1 gallon per hundred miles instead of 2--saving 1 gallon. A 15 MPG truck that becomes a 45 MPG PHEV saves over 5 gallons per hundred miles. That's why CalCars is now focusing largely on pickups, SUVs and trucks, including conversions of already-built vehicles.

5. Plug-in cars are only as clean as the electricity they run on. This is true, but on today's national grid (50% coal), an electric mile produces only half the CO2 of a gasoline mile. Tamminen acknowledges this is true for hydrogen as well…not entirely, since some hydrogen (an energy carrier, not a source) comes from reforming natural gas, which is still high in CO2. For hydrogen made electrically from water, multiple studies have shown the original electricity used to make the fuel carries a vehicle three to four times further if it's put directly into a battery rather than cycled through hydrolysis, fuel transportation, compression, and fuel cells before they get to the electric motor that powers the car. If we ever get hydrogen created directly from the sun and algae, we'll still be decades away from having a full infrastructure for its use.

6. Plug-in advocates aren't looking at the cost of the entire infrastructure, just at the end use. Tamminen forgets about the ability of PHEVs and many EVs to come to the market with no new infrastructure. In contrast to this, all the hydrogen vehicles he so strongly supports need a new infrastructure, and it's largely because of that fact that Energy Secretary Steve Chu and may others have concluded that even if multiple technical and cost issues involving hydrogen and fuel cells are solved, other solutions that are much closer are more deserving of support and incentives. Some day we might have hydrogen providing the range extension fuel for PHEVs, but even cellulosic ethanol is generally seen as arriving far sooner than hydrogen.

The biggest refutation of Tamminen comes from the growing stampede among national governments and automakers to bring plug-in cars to market. They are starting with substantial tax incentives until costs decline with economies of scale -- but the gap needed to bridge is in the $5-$10,000 range, one-tenth or less the amount needed to subsidize Tamminen's preferred hydrogen cars.

Good resources for this subject include: the CalCars FAQ, the page in Internal Combustion Engine Conversions http://www.calcars.org/ice-conversions.html and the Plug In America FAQ




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7 comments so far...

01-Oct-2009
68247
  

I agree that Mr. Tamminen has a bias toward hydrogen-powered cars and away from battery-electric cars.  Felix Kramer has a bias too, toward battery-electric cars and away from hydrogen cars. 

Don't discount people's views for bias.  Most people who have no bias on a controversial subject are those who know nothing about it.  Those who shout "heretic" and close their ears to other views are the ones who are foolish. 


Posted by: Carlos Ruiz

01-Oct-2009
68260
  

 Some charging data from the Tesla web site.  (Seems like someone making a claim would have checked.)

A full charge using a household 120vac outlet  takes 44 hours.

A full change using a household 240vac 30 amp (electric dryer) outlet takes 9.2 hours.

A full charge using Tesla's rapid charger (installed in ones garage - 240vac, 90 amp) takes less than four hours.

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Some real world range testing...

Range at 55 MPH = 230 miles.

Range at 75 MPH = 175 miles.

Range at 100 MPG = 110 miles.

 

 

 


Posted by: Bob Wallace

01-Oct-2009
68224
  

Terry Tamminen has now officially joined the rank of people we cannot listen to, nor trust due to obvious paritality.  It wouldn't surprise anyone if we follow the money trail to see conglomerate with vested interest in hydrogen.  It's people like that that give the community a bad name.

Good job Terry!


Posted by: Nick Zart

01-Oct-2009
68238
  

I heard a new one recently from an ex power co. employee, though our local grid is over 2/3 coal, at night when demand is low the nukes are the last thing they turn down/off, so if I charge my car at night I'm actually using mostly CO2 free power. I understand this is common practice for purely economic reasons. You can buy green power offsets anyway but for the first several million cars their actual power source will mostly be low CO2.


Posted by: Dave K.

01-Oct-2009
68239
  

Apparently EVs won't be just for those with garages.  

..."ECOtality subsidiary eTec, eTec which has partnered up with Nissan, utility San Diego Gas & Electric, and other companies to install a whopping 12,750 charging systems in five states using the new funds. (For comparison, it has installed just over 400 charging stations for on-road electric vehicles so far...

 

 


Posted by: Bob Wallace

01-Oct-2009
68245
  

I read Terry Tamminen's article and it seemed to be critical of pure battery powered EVs (BEVs), not extended range EVs, which some refer to as PHEVs.  But I do take exception to some of his comments.

He talks about the need for an infrastructure to support BEVs.  If an advocate for hydrogen power is going to bring this up as a criticism of BEVs he should do so from the perspective of how this charging station infrastructure would compare to a hydrogen infrastructure.  I've got to believe that creating/installing a charging station is far less costly then a hydrogen refueling station.  Not to mention the hydrogen station would require replenishing(assuming the hydrogen is not produced on site).

He states that the Tesla's range is far less than 200 miles.  Is that correct?

He states that the Tesla's recharge time is 37 hours on a normal outlet.  That would only be the case if the battery pack was completely discharged.  Most people would be recharging nightly and probably be starting with a battery pack that still had ~75% state of charge.

He talks about the inefficiency of carrying around a half ton of batteries.  That would be a large battery pack.  Much larger than what we'll see on range extended EVs.  Plus with improvements in regenerative braking the added weight results in more energy being recaptured when braking.  So the efficiency hit is not that great.  And its my understanding that the fuel cell stack and hydrogen storage tanks are not exactly light.  And fuel cell vehicles still need battery packs, albeit smaller ones.  Maybe he's projecting technological advancements in these areas but if so then he should do the same for battery packs.

I do love the specious reasoning comparing BEVs to corn-based ethanol. Since ethanol proved not to be a viable solution therefore neither are BEVs.  That's completely senseless.  You could just as easily cite corn-based ethanol as an example of why fuel cell vehicles will not be viable or any other technology for that matter.

Bottom line is that I agree with some previous posts that feel this guy is clearly biased and his stated agenda probably has monetary interests attached to it.

 


Posted by: Tim Egan

01-Oct-2009
68255
  

Those of us driving solar-charged electric cars just laugh at people like Mr. Tamminen.

And drive merily on our pollution-free grid-free way.


Posted by: John Spradley

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